Hi, I am currently using debian etch\ but as not all of the packages I want are included in debian by default like autoconf, automake and similar packages I need to install them using apt-get. gcc is another example as it is listed as the build-essential package if you really want to compile things. What is the latest version of the gentoo installation CD that does not require X windows and has speakup and should work with a dectalk express? I would like to at least try it and see what it is like. -- My web page is http://www.nickgawronski.com Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere.