Hi I hope you get on with gentoo, but if I read your message right your going to be very disappointed. It seems that you want to just do a couple of commands and have every thing installed. This maybe alright for Windows, but with Linux you have choice, why install that software you don't want. If I may be so bold to suggest that you stick with Fedora. What you say about debian is simply not true, of course it has those packages and you have the freedom to choose what you want and that you don't. Your Windows mind set needs adapting to accommodate freedom. If you want a deb based distro, have you looked at ubuntu? Regards Gena Amateur Call: M 0 E B P VOIP / IM: gena1959uk -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Nick Gawronski Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:47 PM To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca Subject: considering gentoo over debian Hi, I am currently using debian etch\ but as not all of the packages I want are included in debian by default like autoconf, automake and similar packages I need to install them using apt-get. gcc is another example as it is listed as the build-essential package if you really want to compile things. What is the latest version of the gentoo installation CD that does not require X windows and has speakup and should work with a dectalk express? I would like to at least try it and see what it is like. -- My web page is http://www.nickgawronski.com Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup __________ NOD32 2437 (20070803) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com