Chuck: I see that the patch was merged to Linus' branch, but there have been 2 stable patch releases since and the patch hasn't been pulled in. You mentioned I should reach out to the stable maintainers in this instance, is the stable@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx list the appropriate place to make such a request? Thanks. - mike On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 7:02 PM Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Sep 4, 2021, at 1:41 PM, Mike Javorski <mike.javorski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Hi Chuck. > > > > I noticed that you sent in the 5.15 pull request but Neil's fix > > (e38b3f20059426a0adbde014ff71071739ab5226 in your tree) missed the > > pull and thus the fix isn't going to be backported to 5.14 in the near > > term. Is there another 5.15 pull planned in the not too distant future > > so this will get flagged for back-porting, > > Yes. The final version of Neil’s patch was just a little late for the initial v5.15 NFSD pull request (IMO) so it’s queued for the next PR, probably this week. > > > > or do I need to reach out to someone to expressly pull it into 5.14? If the latter, can you > > point me in the right direction of who to ask (I assume it's someone > > other than Greg KH)? > > > > Thanks > > > > - mike > > > > > >> On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 11:23 AM Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>> On Aug 27, 2021, at 11:22 PM, Mike Javorski <mike.javorski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > >>> I had some time this evening (and the kernel finally compiled), and > >>> wanted to get this tested. > >>> > >>> The TL;DR: Both patches are needed > >>> > >>> Below are the test results from my replication of Neil's test. It is > >>> readily apparent that both the 5.13.13 kernel AND the 5.13.13 kernel > >>> with the 82011c80b3ec fix exhibit the randomness in read times that > >>> were observed. The 5.13.13 kernel with both the 82011c80b3ec and > >>> f6e70aab9dfe fixes brings the performance back in line with the > >>> 5.12.15 kernel which I tested as a baseline. > >>> > >>> Please forgive the inconsistency in sample counts. This was running as > >>> a while loop, and I just let it go long enough that the behavior was > >>> consistent. Only change to the VM between tests was the different > >>> kernel + a reboot. The testing PC had a consistent workload during the > >>> entire set of tests. > >>> > >>> Test 0: 5.13.10 (base kernel in VM image, just for kicks) > >>> ================================================== > >>> Samples 30 > >>> Min 6.839 > >>> Max 19.998 > >>> Median 9.638 > >>> 75-P 10.898 > >>> 95-P 12.939 > >>> 99-P 18.005 > >>> > >>> Test 1: 5.12.15 (known good) > >>> ================================================== > >>> Samples 152 > >>> Min 1.997 > >>> Max 2.333 > >>> Median 2.171 > >>> 75-P 2.230 > >>> 95-P 2.286 > >>> 99-P 2.312 > >>> > >>> Test 2: 5.13.13 (known bad) > >>> ================================================== > >>> Samples 42 > >>> Min 3.587 > >>> Max 15.803 > >>> Median 6.039 > >>> 75-P 6.452 > >>> 95-P 10.293 > >>> 99-P 15.540 > >>> > >>> Test 3: 5.13.13 + 82011c80b3ec fix > >>> ================================================== > >>> Samples 44 > >>> Min 4.309 > >>> Max 37.040 > >>> Median 6.615 > >>> 75-P 10.224 > >>> 95-P 19.516 > >>> 99-P 36.650 > >>> > >>> Test 4: 5.13.13 + 82011c80b3ec fix + f6e70aab9dfe fix > >>> ================================================== > >>> Samples 131 > >>> Min 2.013 > >>> Max 2.397 > >>> Median 2.169 > >>> 75-P 2.211 > >>> 95-P 2.283 > >>> 99-P 2.348 > >>> > >>> I am going to run the kernel w/ both fixes over the weekend, but > >>> things look good at this point. > >>> > >>> - mike > >> > >> I've targeted Neil's fix for the first 5.15-rc NFSD pull request. > >> I'd like to have Mel's Reviewed-by or Acked-by, though. > >> > >> I will add a Fixes: tag if Neil doesn't repost (no reason to at > >> this point) so the fix should get backported automatically to > >> recent stable kernels. > >> > >> > >>> On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 4:49 PM Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On Aug 27, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Mike Javorski <mike.javorski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> OK, an update. Several hours of spaced out testing sessions and the > >>>>> first patch seems to have resolved the issue. There may be a very tiny > >>>>> bit of lag that still occurs when opening/processing new files, but so > >>>>> far on this kernel I have not had any multi-second freezes. I am still > >>>>> waiting on the kernel with Neil's patch to compile (compiling on this > >>>>> underpowered server so it's taking several hours), but I think the > >>>>> testing there will just be to see if I can show it works still, and > >>>>> then to try and test in a memory constrained VM. To see if I can > >>>>> recreate Neil's experiment. Likely will have to do this over the > >>>>> weekend given the kernel compile delay + fiddling with a VM. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks for your testing! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Chuck: I don't mean to overstep bounds, but is it possible to get that > >>>>> patch pulled into 5.13 stable? That may help things for several people > >>>>> while 5.14 goes through it's shakedown in archlinux prior to release. > >>>> > >>>> The patch had a Fixes: tag, so it should get automatically backported > >>>> to every kernel that has the broken commit. If you don't see it in > >>>> a subsequent 5.13 stable kernel, you are free to ask the stable > >>>> maintainers to consider it. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> - mike > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 10:07 AM Mike Javorski <mike.javorski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Chuck: > >>>>>> I just booted a 5.13.13 kernel with your suggested patch. No freezes > >>>>>> on the first test, but that sometimes happens so I will let the server > >>>>>> settle some and try it again later in the day (which also would align > >>>>>> with Neil's comment on memory fragmentation being a contributor). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Neil: > >>>>>> I have started a compile with the above kernel + your patch to test > >>>>>> next unless you or Chuck determine that it isn't needed, or that I > >>>>>> should test both patches discreetly. As the above is already merged to > >>>>>> 5.14 it seemed logical to just add your patch on top. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I will also try to set up a vm to test your md5sum scenario with the > >>>>>> various kernels since it's a much faster thing to test. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> - mike > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 7:13 AM Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2021, at 3:14 AM, NeilBrown <neilb@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Subject: [PATCH] SUNRPC: don't pause on incomplete allocation > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> alloc_pages_bulk_array() attempts to allocate at least one page based on > >>>>>>>> the provided pages, and then opportunistically allocates more if that > >>>>>>>> can be done without dropping the spinlock. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> So if it returns fewer than requested, that could just mean that it > >>>>>>>> needed to drop the lock. In that case, try again immediately. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Only pause for a time if no progress could be made. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The case I was worried about was "no pages available on the > >>>>>>> pcplist", in which case, alloc_pages_bulk_array() resorts > >>>>>>> to calling __alloc_pages() and returns only one new page. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "No progess" would mean even __alloc_pages() failed. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So this patch would behave essentially like the > >>>>>>> pre-alloc_pages_bulk_array() code: call alloc_page() for > >>>>>>> each empty struct_page in the array without pausing. That > >>>>>>> seems correct to me. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I would add > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Fixes: f6e70aab9dfe ("SUNRPC: refresh rq_pages using a bulk page allocator") > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: NeilBrown <neilb@xxxxxxx> > >>>>>>>> --- > >>>>>>>> net/sunrpc/svc_xprt.c | 7 +++++-- > >>>>>>>> 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> diff --git a/net/sunrpc/svc_xprt.c b/net/sunrpc/svc_xprt.c > >>>>>>>> index d66a8e44a1ae..99268dd95519 100644 > >>>>>>>> --- a/net/sunrpc/svc_xprt.c > >>>>>>>> +++ b/net/sunrpc/svc_xprt.c > >>>>>>>> @@ -662,7 +662,7 @@ static int svc_alloc_arg(struct svc_rqst *rqstp) > >>>>>>>> { > >>>>>>>> struct svc_serv *serv = rqstp->rq_server; > >>>>>>>> struct xdr_buf *arg = &rqstp->rq_arg; > >>>>>>>> - unsigned long pages, filled; > >>>>>>>> + unsigned long pages, filled, prev; > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> pages = (serv->sv_max_mesg + 2 * PAGE_SIZE) >> PAGE_SHIFT; > >>>>>>>> if (pages > RPCSVC_MAXPAGES) { > >>>>>>>> @@ -672,11 +672,14 @@ static int svc_alloc_arg(struct svc_rqst *rqstp) > >>>>>>>> pages = RPCSVC_MAXPAGES; > >>>>>>>> } > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> - for (;;) { > >>>>>>>> + for (prev = 0;; prev = filled) { > >>>>>>>> filled = alloc_pages_bulk_array(GFP_KERNEL, pages, > >>>>>>>> rqstp->rq_pages); > >>>>>>>> if (filled == pages) > >>>>>>>> break; > >>>>>>>> + if (filled > prev) > >>>>>>>> + /* Made progress, don't sleep yet */ > >>>>>>>> + continue; > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE); > >>>>>>>> if (signalled() || kthread_should_stop()) { > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Chuck Lever > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Chuck Lever > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> -- > >> Chuck Lever > >> > >> > >>