On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 04:16:27PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 4:10 PM Russell King (Oracle) > <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 01:32:29PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > > ... > > > Let me say again: I am not changing this. That's for Asahi people to > > do if they wish. I am the just middle-man here. > > While I agree on technical aspects, this mythical "they" is > frustrating me. They haven't participated in this discussion (yet?) so > they do not care, why should we (as a community of upstream)? That's strange. I wonder. If they don't exist, then I wonder how Linus is running Linux on aarch64 apple hardware. Maybe it's not me with a problem here? Hector has been promising to get involved in this discussion for a few days now, his latest comment on IRC yesterday: 16:23 <@marcan> I'm going to allocate tuesday to playing the merge game (rmk: haven't forgotten about you either, IRQs today, but I'll get to it before tuesday): So he is aware that he needs to respond - but like any central project lead developer, he's probably exceedingly busy with other issues. > P.S. Do you have a platform to test all these? Yes, but that doesn't mean I can do testing sufficient to ensure that the modifications are correct. As I understand things, the SMC is not limited to just aarch64 hardware. It doesn't mean that "if it boots it must be okay" is sufficient. So, how about you stop insisting on changes until Hector can respond to some of the questions raised; as I've said many times, you are asking for stuff to be changed that is quite clearly in the realm of decisions that the Asahi developer(s) have taken, and I have no right to change them without reference to them - because I do not know this platform well enough to make the decisions you're asking of me. I'm not going to say that again; I'm going to start ignoring you if you persist in demanding that I make these kinds of decisions, because *you* leave me no other option but to do that... because *you* just don't seem to be willing to accept that I need others to be involved in these decisions. -- RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/ FTTP is here! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!