Re: [PATCH 5/6] gpio: Add new gpio-macsmc driver for Apple Macs

[Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 5:01 PM Russell King (Oracle)
<linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 04:16:27PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 4:10 PM Russell King (Oracle)
> > <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 01:32:29PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:

...

> > > Let me say again: I am not changing this. That's for Asahi people to
> > > do if they wish. I am the just middle-man here.
> >
> > While I agree on technical aspects, this mythical "they" is
> > frustrating me. They haven't participated in this discussion (yet?) so
> > they do not care, why should we (as a community of upstream)?
>
> That's strange. I wonder. If they don't exist, then I wonder how Linus
> is running Linux on aarch64 apple hardware. Maybe it's not me with a
> problem here?

You mentioned them several times in the thread and no response from them.

> Hector has been promising to get involved in this discussion for a few
> days now, his latest comment on IRC yesterday:

IRC is not an email discussion and if he is not alone in the team, who
else can answer the queries?

But it's good that there is an interest from their side.

> 16:23 <@marcan> I'm going to allocate tuesday to playing the merge game (rmk:
>                 haven't forgotten about you either, IRQs today, but I'll get to
>                 it before tuesday):
>
> So he is aware that he needs to respond - but like any central project
> lead developer, he's probably exceedingly busy with other issues.

> So, how about you stop insisting on changes until Hector can respond
> to some of the questions raised; as I've said many times, you are
> asking for stuff to be changed that is quite clearly in the realm of
> decisions that the Asahi developer(s) have taken, and I have no right
> to change them without reference to them - because I do not know this
> platform well enough to make the decisions you're asking of me.
>
> I'm not going to say that again; I'm going to start ignoring you if
> you persist in demanding that I make these kinds of decisions, because
> *you* leave me no other option but to do that... because *you* just
> don't seem to be willing to accept that I need others to be involved
> in these decisions.

If I spoke like this for all contributions, from our side to the
upstream, I would become a crazy guy, because upstream almost always
insists on some changes here and there in the patches which are longer
than a couple of dozens of LoCs and more than a single in a series.
It's normal practice to follow the latest available APIs in the
kernel. Nevertheless, I told *you*, that technically I have no more
issues. Let's wait for the technical response from them.

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko