On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 03:01:09PM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote: > On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 04:16:27PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 4:10 PM Russell King (Oracle) > > <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 01:32:29PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > Let me say again: I am not changing this. That's for Asahi people to > > > do if they wish. I am the just middle-man here. > > > > While I agree on technical aspects, this mythical "they" is > > frustrating me. They haven't participated in this discussion (yet?) so > > they do not care, why should we (as a community of upstream)? > > That's strange. I wonder. If they don't exist, then I wonder how Linus > is running Linux on aarch64 apple hardware. Maybe it's not me with a > problem here? > > Hector has been promising to get involved in this discussion for a few > days now, his latest comment on IRC yesterday: > > 16:23 <@marcan> I'm going to allocate tuesday to playing the merge game (rmk: > haven't forgotten about you either, IRQs today, but I'll get to > it before tuesday): > > So he is aware that he needs to respond - but like any central project > lead developer, he's probably exceedingly busy with other issues. > > > P.S. Do you have a platform to test all these? > > Yes, but that doesn't mean I can do testing sufficient to ensure that > the modifications are correct. As I understand things, the SMC is not > limited to just aarch64 hardware. > > It doesn't mean that "if it boots it must be okay" is sufficient. > > So, how about you stop insisting on changes until Hector can respond > to some of the questions raised; as I've said many times, you are > asking for stuff to be changed that is quite clearly in the realm of > decisions that the Asahi developer(s) have taken, and I have no right > to change them without reference to them - because I do not know this > platform well enough to make the decisions you're asking of me. > > I'm not going to say that again; I'm going to start ignoring you if > you persist in demanding that I make these kinds of decisions, because > *you* leave me no other option but to do that... because *you* just > don't seem to be willing to accept that I need others to be involved > in these decisions. Oh, and another thing. Your behaviour on this is making me regret trying to get involved in improving the upstream support for this platform. -- RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/ FTTP is here! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!