Re: [ANNOUNCE] DVB API improvements End-user point of view

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Am Freitag, den 26.09.2008, 06:50 +0200 schrieb Markus Rechberger:
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Douglas Schilling Landgraf
> <dougsland@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:37:12 +0200
> > hermann pitton <hermann-pitton@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Who the hell is VDR User <user.vdr@xxxxxxxxx> ?
> >> Klaus himself?
> >>
> >> At least he knows nothing about Mauro's real work on video4linux.
> >
> > Agreed. He's *totally lost* about Mauro's work.
> >
> >> To prepare the kernel sync and give the patchmonkey on Johannes'
> >> request for dvb too, are only a very few percent of his work and the
> >> "thanks" he had for this so far are it not worth at all ...
> >>
> >> On all other major projects, where he is the maintainer, such absurd
> >> stuff did never happen.
> >>
> >> The dvb guys inside don't get their stuff together and do exclude each
> >> other. At least Steve had no other choice than to come up with his own
> >> solution.
> >
> > Definitely.
> >
> >> What a bullshit to accuse Mauro of missing maintainer ship, all asked
> >> him to stay out as far as possible to continue to play there own
> >> games!
> >
> > For sure, there are people here trying this every single day.
> > Insted of spend time improving drivers they prefer attack Mauro and
> > people that are working hard in their spare time.
> >
> >> But they just load the daily dirt on him they preferably don't like to
> >> care themselves for at all, including patch reviewing in many parts.
> >>
> >> Also Mike did more integration work across the frameworks than anyone
> >> else during the last year. That by the way.
> >
> > Agreed.
> >
> 
> the merge request has been pushed out for for Manu's code.
> 
> I'm also dealing alot with DVB and related issues (eg. the i2c messup,
> as for the cx88 based
> devices pcmcia iomem reservation back then .. and many other issues
> which went through other
> subsystems).
> 
> That there's no progress at the other sides is not true:
> http://mcentral.de/hg/~mrec/em28xx-new/shortlog
> 
> permanent development for the last couple of months.
> All you could do there is to take out the usbids copy it to
> linuxtv.org and play against all the people
> who contributed to the other tree and which is manufacturer supported.
> 
> I'd really better think twice if you want to keep up reverse
> engineered drivers with linux which are capable
> of melting devices (this happens with wrong configurations).
> 
> Why am I interested in DVB? Because we have devices supporting
> multiple standards which are yet
> not directly supported by the DVB framework.
> 
> The lies that I forked off the driver which I initially submitted to
> linuxtv is ridiculous as you modified the wiki
> site on linuxtv.org. See all that you and Mauro basically have done is
> copying the code from mcentral.de
> and trying to build up a second front against the manufacturer supported work.
> 
> I'm seriously for a new Maintainer election here, let's see what will
> come up during the next few days.
> 


A new maintainer for dvb?

Was there ever one ?

It likely is the evilest swamp I can imagine.

Who could be ever interested in such? YOU ?

Be sure on video4linux we'll never discuss it ever again.

Cheers,
Hermann


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