On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 11:28:19 +0800 Guo Ren <guoren@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 2:14 AM Nick Kossifidis <mick@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Στις 2021-05-20 04:45, Guo Ren έγραψε: > > > On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 2:53 PM Christoph Hellwig <hch@xxxxxx> wrote: > > >> > > >> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 11:44:35PM -0700, Drew Fustini wrote: > > >> > This patch series looks like it might be useful for the StarFive JH7100 > > >> > [1] [2] too as it has peripherals on a non-coherent interconnect. GMAC, > > >> > USB and SDIO require that the L2 cache must be manually flushed after > > >> > DMA operations if the data is intended to be shared with U74 cores [2]. > > >> > > >> Not too much, given that the SiFive lineage CPUs have an uncached > > >> window, that is a totally different way to allocate uncached memory. > > > It's a very big MIPS smell. What's the attribute of the uncached > > > window? (uncached + strong-order/ uncached + weak, most vendors still > > > use AXI interconnect, how to deal with a bufferable attribute?) In > > > fact, customers' drivers use different ways to deal with DMA memory in > > > non-coherent SOC. Most riscv SOC vendors are from ARM, so giving them > > > the same way in DMA memory is a smart choice. So using PTE attributes > > > is more suitable. > > > <snip> > > > 4.4.1 > > > The draft supports custom attribute bits in PTE. > > > > > > > Not only it doesn't support custom attributes on PTEs: > > > > "Bits63–54 are reserved for future standard use and must be zeroed by > > software for forward compatibility." > > > > It also goes further to say that: > > > > "if any of these bits are set, a page-fault exception is raised" > Agree, when our processor's mmu works in compatible mmu, we must keep > "Bits63–54 bit" zero in Linux. > So, I think this is the first version of the PTE format. > > If the "PBMT" extension proposal is approved, it will cause the second > version of the PTE format. > > Maybe in the future, we'll get more versions of the PTE formats. > > So, seems Linux must support multi versions of PTE formats with one > Image, right? > > Okay, we could stop arguing with the D1 PTE format. And talk about how > to let Linux support multi versions of PTE formats that come from the > future RISC-V privilege spec. > Just my humble opinion: When those bits(63~54) usage are standardized in future RISC-V privilege spec generic Image can still be supported with the following solutions: *alternative patch only fly: If the bit is only need to be set during init, we may insert nop instruction(s) at proper place, then patch the nop into set_the_target_bit instruction(s) by hart's feature. *normal check feature then use: If the feature needs a bit complex code, we could go through the "feature check then use". static key tech can be used here to avoid branches.