Email lists do not exist to do all the work for you. You tend to get the best results in situations where it is "I am trying to do such and such and such. This is the config I am using and this is the error I am getting. I searched google for an answer, but the solution I found didn't help. any ideas?" People are not here to do the work. They are here to offer advice and a push in the right to direction to help get past sticking points. As for saying "you're in a rush", that is probably the WORST thing you can say on these lists. Just about everyone on here is at work and doing their own job. It is rude and tacky to assume your problems are so important that you can't do initial research yourself, but we can take time out of our day to help you because you are lazy. As for the "afford a book excuse", it has no bearing. When it comes to programming, there is SO much documentation and examples online, that the only reason to buy a book is to have an ordered hard copy reference material. Just keep in mind that the "intelligent and friendly people" that are on lists, are typically at work and very busy themselves. No one is obligated to answer your questions and you will see the well run dry if you continue to expect others to do your work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott@Charter" <scott.smallsreed@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "tyler" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: "Linux-Admin-Group" <linux-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:54 AM Subject: Re: Perl > Then why do these groups exist? Did you ever stop and think that maybe I am > in a rush? Did you ever stop and think that maybe I am unemployed, looking > for a job, and can't afford a book? Did you ever stop and think that there > are kind, intelligent people out there who are willing and happy to just > answer questions politely that are asked politely? I guess we can't all > have your flare for life! > > Go spread your cheer in the grumpy user group. (and I'm being nice) There > are nice people out there who are willing to help me out. Some people just > want/need a little help with certain things. Why did you become a member of > this group? > > Besides, I have a useless Perl book. - : send the line "unsubscribe linux-admin" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html