Here's a thought experiment. Update the standards process such that the approval of Proposed Standard RFCs, after an IETF last call including some specified cross-area review requirements, is done by the WG consensus process with the consent of the AD . Why would that work? Because it now incents the WG chairs by making them, in effect, where the buck stops. So the WG chairs and AD (typically a committee of three) will feel the obligation to get everything right. And it scales. Regards Brian Carpenter On 07-Nov-19 06:04, Bob Hinden wrote: > Ralph, > >> On Nov 6, 2019, at 3:03 AM, Ralph Droms <rdroms.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> >> We shouldn't be depending on last-minute quality checks to maintain the quality of our output. Working groups should be producing documents that are ready to publish, and develop trust that their documents are high quality. >> > > I agree. This pushes most of the responsibility to the w.g. chairs, where IMHO it belongs. This does scale with the number of working groups. > > Bob > >