On 3 Sep 2019, at 10:17 am, Masataka Ohta <mohta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Mark Nottingham wrote: > >> Absolutely not agreed, for reasons that have been discussed at >> length. Ignoring bad behaviour is permission to continue it, and >> changes the culture of the IETF to exclude valuable contributors. It >> also makes this a toxic environment. > > As for not changing the culture of the IETF, how do you evaluate > the following statement of an SAA I received: > > > We understand that this style of communication was accepted (if > > not encouraged) in the past, but it is no longer the expectation > > now. I don't have much context here. Is the presumption in the question that *you* are the valuable contributor being excluded? If so, I'd point out that this appears to be a request to introspect about how your communication style affects others, not exclusion. You can still participate. Cheers, -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/