Re: why is it still mandatary to have Jabber scribing for WG session given Etherpad can allow anyone to post questions?

[Warren Kumari <warren@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 2:42 PM Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Andy,

 

Thanks for the note. Do I need to download the Jabber agent to see the chat in Jabber room?

 

When I enter the Meetecho room for IDR, I only saw:

 

For some reason you are looking at the IDR logs for Saturday July 27th -- the IDR meeting happened on Wednesday the 24th - if you look there you will see the content - https://www.ietf.org/jabber/logs/idr/2019-07-24.html

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Linda

 

From: Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 12:13 PM
To: Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@xxxxxxxxx>; Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@xxxxxxxxxx>; ietf@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: why is it still mandatary to have Jabber scribing for WG session given Etherpad can allow anyone to post questions?

 

Linda,

 

When you use Meetecho, the pane to the left of the video is the Jabber chat window. So you just need to open Meetecho for the WG in question and not allow it access to your camera or microphone when it starts up.

 

Cheers,

Andy

 

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 11:30 AM Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I like Tim’s idea of having IETF Jabber server.

 

How to use meetecho to do Jabber scribe?

 

Linda

 

From: Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 6:45 AM
To: Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@xxxxxxxxx>; Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; ietf@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: why is it still mandatary to have Jabber scribing for WG session given Etherpad can allow anyone to post questions?

 

 

If we want to keep the Jabber going, could we not set up our own Jabber server? perhaps tied to the datatracker or something 

more ephemeral ? 

 

( I've lost more than a few jabber accounts in my days, and I did use Hangouts until the googles switched to mutant XMPP.)

 

(Meetecho is very useful also, just saying). 

 

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 4:10 AM Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 7 Aug 2019, at 06:34, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2019, Linda Dunbar wrote:
>
>> Installing Jabber is not easy. You have to find specific servers to download, and very often you are not really sure which one is legitimate.
>
> You do not need a Jabber client. You can use the WebRTC enabled Meetecho webpage for the session and chat there. It's "the jabber room". It nicely combines the jabber room (the chat window in Meetecho), the video feed and the notes. It works in any modern browser/OS on a desktop OS.

Exactly; you can use MeetEcho to be "on Jabber".

> I haven't used a jabber client to participate in IETF jabber room for 3-5 years now. I only use Meetecho. I've jabber-scribed probably 30 sessions this way.

Same, though not so much scribing as professionals such as you :)

Tim

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