Re: RFC Series Editor Resignation

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I would invite you to re-read Alissa's message, which is explicit that the issue is Mike's "repeated use of unprofessional language" -- not anything to do with his arguments.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:52 AM Keith Moore <moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
No, what is being talked about is the suppression of necessary and constructive speech out of a misguided idea that telling the truth is disrespectful. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 3, 2019, at 10:49 AM, Richard Barnes <rlb@xxxxxx> wrote:

Nobody is talking about varnishing truth, Keith.  They're talking about treating fellow contributors with respect.  There's a big gap between those two ideas.

--Richard


On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:42 AM Keith Moore <moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I believe such rules (or something akin to them [*]) are essential to productive technical discussion and therefore essential to IETF.  I also believe that efforts to prevent people from telling the unvarnished truth about a technical mechanism, or a political one, are harmful to IETF in the most extreme sense possible. 

[*] my preferred version is closer to “Criticize ideas, not people.  But criticize harmful ideas when necessary to prevent harm even if there’s a risk that people will take such criticism personally. “

Keith

> On Jul 3, 2019, at 10:13 AM, Job Snijders <job@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> believe "Crocker's Rules" are incompatible with the IETF process and
> as such notifications via IETF's communication channels about whether
> someone adheres to Crocker's Rules or not, don't serve a purpose.


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