I believe such rules (or something akin to them [*]) are essential to productive technical discussion and therefore essential to IETF. I also believe that efforts to prevent people from telling the unvarnished truth about a technical mechanism, or a political one, are harmful to IETF in the most extreme sense possible. [*] my preferred version is closer to “Criticize ideas, not people. But criticize harmful ideas when necessary to prevent harm even if there’s a risk that people will take such criticism personally. “ Keith > On Jul 3, 2019, at 10:13 AM, Job Snijders <job@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > believe "Crocker's Rules" are incompatible with the IETF process and > as such notifications via IETF's communication channels about whether > someone adheres to Crocker's Rules or not, don't serve a purpose.