On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 09:07:24PM +0300, Fernando Gont wrote: > On 7/6/19 21:43, Nico Williams wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 12:42:17PM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > >> ps. at least for me, I will already know in my home city of Toronto, > >> whether or not I will be refused for not handing out my social media > >> or web browser history, since we clear immigration at the airport :P > > > > So, CBP asking to see your social media or mobile is not remotely a new > > thing, and was happening before 2016. > > For the USA? Datapoint: I've processed two visas for the USA prior to > 2017, and I've never was asked social media details. *CBP*, at the border. They don't ask everyone, just some visitors. > > The U.S. is not the only country to have done that sort of thing, either. > > Does that matter? Maybe, yes. If we want meetings only in countries that never do this, we'll need that data. > > But CBP is also naturally > > bandwidth limited as to how many visitors they can apply that treatment > > to... > > How does this criteria play with the "being more inclusinve" thing? It's about likelihood of inconvenience / privacy invasion. > > What's *new* here is that those who need a _visa_ to visit now can be > > subjected to this treatmeant with a higher natural bandwidth limit at > > the applicable U.S. consulate, so more such visitors can expect to be > > subjected to it. I imagine consular officials were always able to > > request additional data, such as social media identifiers, but now the > > State department will be requiring that information of all visa > > applicants. > > > > Now, not every visitor to the U.S. needs a visa. > > FWIW, most (if not all) latinamerican countries need a visa to enter the > USA. Chile is on the waiver program, so not all. So the vast majority of citizens of Latin Americ are affected. Nico --