Re: IAB agendas now public

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On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 5:30 AM, Randy Bush <randy@xxxxxxx> wrote:
so holding a secret meeting within a closed meeting to discuss a bof on
the rfc series is
  o perfectly fine
  o a lapse of judgement (of course i have none of those :)
  o a lapse of process
  o your ad goes here?

Randy,

If you refer to the minutes of the previous meetings you'll see:

10. Feedback from the Independent Stream Editorial Board

The IAB discussed feedback from the Independent Stream Editorial Board on proposed changes to the Independent Stream. The IAB will discuss this further next week when Heather Flanagan is available to join the IAB meeting

on 5/9, followed by:

5. Independent Stream

The IAB discussed the future of the Independent Stream and how to frame that discussion with the community.

Martin Thomson noted that the conversation was not about closing the Independent Stream, but about trying to find ways to remove some of the confusion about what counts as a standard and what documents are actually produced by the IETF.

Jari Arkko added he does not want to see publication of documents made more difficult or add obstacles to publishing research.

After the discussion, Martin Thomson, Ted Hardie, Melinda Shore, and Suzanne Woolf agreed to write up a BOF proposal for IETF 102 to discuss an experiment with the community for publishing IAB, IRTF, and IS documents with an identifier other than “RFC.” A new mailing list will be created to go with the BOF proposal.

on 5/11.

There were also a number of previous discussions, including at the joint IESG and IAB retreat.

The 5/30 meeting had this in executive session because I wanted it to have the balance of time in the meeting; the item before it needed to be an executive session (personnel issue):

8. Executive Session: RZERC Appointment

The IAB’s appointment to the RZERC was discussed in an executive session.

9. Executive Session: RFC++ BoF proposal

The RFC++ BOF Proposal was discussed in an executive session.

As a result, it ended up in executive session, since calling people back into the meeting once you have gone into executive session is impractical.   I recognized that at the time and was okay with it, because of some of the discussion was who to request act as chair.  That is, again, a personnel issue.

I understand that you may disagree with the decision to hold any part of a meeting in executive session, and if it that was a lapse in judgement, it was mine.

regards,

Ted




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