Re: [103all] Visas for IETF 103 in Thailand

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Useful. Thanks. Maybe it deserves a link from the IETF Meeting Page.

> On Aug 15, 2018, at 11:12 AM, Sean Turner <sean@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> That is typically what I do too, but I also stumbled across this handy link at United:
> 
> https://www.united.com/web/en-US/apps/vendors/default.aspx?i=TIMATIC
> 
> spt
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2018, at 12:14, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> For myself, the information seems pretty readily obtained. I asked my favorite search engine “do I need a visa to go to Thailand”, and up popped https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/thai-visas-americans/. You might make a similar inquiry.
>> 
>> Sent using a machine that autocorrects in interesting ways...
>> 
>> On Aug 15, 2018, at 1:03 AM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2018, at 21:47, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> As near as I can tell, there is nothing we collectively can do about
>>>> this: we each need to be aware of the immigration realities affecting
>>>> us.  The IAD and Secretariat and all of IASA can do as much as it
>>>> likes to try to get information it knows, but IASA cannot and should
>>>> not offer legal advice to any of us.  We all must evaluate our
>>>> respective situations and make the determination best in each case.
>>> 
>>> Hi Andrew,
>>> 
>>> while this probably faithfully mirrors what a lawyer would tell you, it is also terribly inefficient.
>>> 
>>> The organization behind the IETF can very well collect information about the situation for, say, citizens of the 10 leading regions that will originate participants.  I would expect my meeting fee dollars to already have paid for that, because the venue selection committee must already have looked at that.  So why withhold that information?
>>> 
>>> Yes, it would need to be qualified as “not legal advice”, “subject to change”, “void where prohibited”, etc.
>>> It would help if it contains pointers to authoritative information I can look up myself.
>>> And, ultimately, it is my decision (or that of my organization) how to handle this information, but the IETF could do most of the legwork here.  Regularly, as a routine component of venue selection and preparing for a meeting.
>>> 
>>> Grüße, Carsten
>>> 
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