7 days a week * 24 hours = 168 hours. 37.6% of 168 hours is 63 hours and ten minutes a week, which sounds about right for an AD workload. Really, the maths isn't hard. L. Lloyd Wood lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx http://about.me/lloydwood ; On Tuesday, 31 July 2018, 07:49:32 GMT+10, Adrian Farrel <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: And this begs an interesting (to me :-) question. When someone says she works at being AD 37.6% of her time, does she mean "37.6% of her paid time" or "37.6% of the time that is available to work on anything"? That would seem to cut into the "volunteer ethos" a lot. So, clearly, someone who puts in 45 hours a week as AD is a hero when they are paid for those hours, but when 39 of those hours are voluntary, unpaid time, then they are a super-hero. And it is important for ADs reporting how much time the role takes up to report the total hours spent (modesty should not come into it!). Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stephen Farrell > Sent: 30 July 2018 20:21 > To: Warren Kumari > Cc: IETF Discuss > Subject: Re: AD Time > > > > On 30/07/18 18:15, Warren Kumari wrote: > > I suspect I'm not really articulating this very well... > > FWIW, Warren I think I got exactly what you mean and if so, > I fully agree with you. > > Another way to try say it might be: If you muck with the > volunteer ethos too much, as is being suggested by a few > people on this thread, you are very very likely to destroy > that volunteer ethos entirely. > > The half-baked ideas I've seen throw out in this thread seem > to be exemplars in mucking about carelessly, or would be if > taken seriously. (And in case someone wonders, I don't see > any value in this thread as a thought-experiment either.) > > S.