Re: agenda for the RFC++

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Hi Brian,

thanks for the clarification! The slide talks about PS, not DS. I guess
that is what you meant, right?

Anyway, the database shows a bunch of RFCs from the Independent Stream
that are Standards Track or BCP, respectively:

https://www.rfc-editor.org/search/rfc_search_detail.php?pubstatus%5B%5D=Standards+Track&std_trk=Any&pub_date_type=any&stream_name=Independent

https://www.rfc-editor.org/search/rfc_search_detail.php?std_trk=Any&pubstatus%5B%5D=Best+Current+Practice&pub_date_type=any&stream_name=Independent

Cheers,

Gonzalo

On 16/07/2018 5:09 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> Well, I very much doubt that the Independent strem has published a DS and a BCP since the stream was formally defined. Can you clarify?
> 
> Regards
>    Brian
> 
> On 17/07/2018 08:40, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote:
>> Hi Brian,
>>
>> if you are not more concrete with your comments, it will be difficult
>> for us to address them ;-) Please, note that slide 9 lists what has been
>> done while slide 10 lists what it is allowed. So, for example, those
>> slides show that while the Independent Stream is not supposed to publish
>> Proposed Standards, it was somehow done in the past.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Gonzalo
>>
>> On 16/07/2018 4:29 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>> slide 9, Independent column, there are 2 erroneous X's
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>    Brian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17/07/2018 07:09, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote:
>>>> Hi Loa,
>>>>
>>>> the chair slides are available at (in her email, Heather also sent links
>>>> to the mailing list archives and to the original BoF proposal):
>>>>
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/slides-102-rfcplusplus-slides-00
>>>>
>>>> You can find the questions there. As you can see, they are a few very
>>>> generic questions intended to explore the problem space because, so far,
>>>> the discussions on the mailing list have not converged at all. We have
>>>> not seen any consensus so far around whether or not there is a problem
>>>> and, if so, whether or not it is a problem worth solving.
>>>>
>>>> There have been discussions about the solution space as well, but we
>>>> believe we need to discuss the problem space a bit better before jumping
>>>> into designing and discussing concrete solutions.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Gonzalo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 16/07/2018 1:57 PM, Loa Andersson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> With an agenda like this
>>>>>
>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/agenda-102-rfcplusplus-00
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How am I supposed to prepared the the bof?
>>>>>
>>>>> /Loa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>




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