Re: agenda for the RFC++

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see Loa’s note - might want too clean the data before relying on it

a quick check shows that RFCs 3856-3858 were from the simple WG
RFC 3595 looks like art was the opsawg

did not check the rest

but I doubt the LDAP RFCs were IS


Scott

> On Jul 16, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> thanks for the clarification! The slide talks about PS, not DS. I guess
> that is what you meant, right?
> 
> Anyway, the database shows a bunch of RFCs from the Independent Stream
> that are Standards Track or BCP, respectively:
> 
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/search/rfc_search_detail.php?pubstatus%5B%5D=Standards+Track&std_trk=Any&pub_date_type=any&stream_name=Independent
> 
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/search/rfc_search_detail.php?std_trk=Any&pubstatus%5B%5D=Best+Current+Practice&pub_date_type=any&stream_name=Independent
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Gonzalo
> 
> On 16/07/2018 5:09 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> Well, I very much doubt that the Independent strem has published a DS and a BCP since the stream was formally defined. Can you clarify?
>> 
>> Regards
>>   Brian
>> 
>> On 17/07/2018 08:40, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote:
>>> Hi Brian,
>>> 
>>> if you are not more concrete with your comments, it will be difficult
>>> for us to address them ;-) Please, note that slide 9 lists what has been
>>> done while slide 10 lists what it is allowed. So, for example, those
>>> slides show that while the Independent Stream is not supposed to publish
>>> Proposed Standards, it was somehow done in the past.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Gonzalo
>>> 
>>> On 16/07/2018 4:29 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>>> slide 9, Independent column, there are 2 erroneous X's
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>>   Brian
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 17/07/2018 07:09, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote:
>>>>> Hi Loa,
>>>>> 
>>>>> the chair slides are available at (in her email, Heather also sent links
>>>>> to the mailing list archives and to the original BoF proposal):
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/slides-102-rfcplusplus-slides-00
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can find the questions there. As you can see, they are a few very
>>>>> generic questions intended to explore the problem space because, so far,
>>>>> the discussions on the mailing list have not converged at all. We have
>>>>> not seen any consensus so far around whether or not there is a problem
>>>>> and, if so, whether or not it is a problem worth solving.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There have been discussions about the solution space as well, but we
>>>>> believe we need to discuss the problem space a bit better before jumping
>>>>> into designing and discussing concrete solutions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gonzalo
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 16/07/2018 1:57 PM, Loa Andersson wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> With an agenda like this
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/agenda-102-rfcplusplus-00
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How am I supposed to prepared the the bof?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> /Loa
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
> 





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