Well, I very much doubt that the Independent strem has published a DS and a BCP since the stream was formally defined. Can you clarify? Regards Brian On 17/07/2018 08:40, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote: > Hi Brian, > > if you are not more concrete with your comments, it will be difficult > for us to address them ;-) Please, note that slide 9 lists what has been > done while slide 10 lists what it is allowed. So, for example, those > slides show that while the Independent Stream is not supposed to publish > Proposed Standards, it was somehow done in the past. > > Cheers, > > Gonzalo > > On 16/07/2018 4:29 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> slide 9, Independent column, there are 2 erroneous X's >> >> Regards >> Brian >> >> >> >> On 17/07/2018 07:09, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote: >>> Hi Loa, >>> >>> the chair slides are available at (in her email, Heather also sent links >>> to the mailing list archives and to the original BoF proposal): >>> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/slides-102-rfcplusplus-slides-00 >>> >>> You can find the questions there. As you can see, they are a few very >>> generic questions intended to explore the problem space because, so far, >>> the discussions on the mailing list have not converged at all. We have >>> not seen any consensus so far around whether or not there is a problem >>> and, if so, whether or not it is a problem worth solving. >>> >>> There have been discussions about the solution space as well, but we >>> believe we need to discuss the problem space a bit better before jumping >>> into designing and discussing concrete solutions. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Gonzalo >>> >>> >>> On 16/07/2018 1:57 PM, Loa Andersson wrote: >>>> >>>> Folks, >>>> >>>> With an agenda like this >>>> >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/agenda-102-rfcplusplus-00 >>>> >>>> >>>> How am I supposed to prepared the the bof? >>>> >>>> /Loa >>> >>> >> >