dima, > I believe that it is possible to change our minds and to try find how > we can design and deploy really distributed approach which can > satisfied all old raising needs. while i can see this as possible (note 'possible') technically, i worry that, as you said, our social structure has too much invested, ego and financial, in the status quo. i have little to no faith in the icn, ndn, nnnnnn, paths. so what clues do we have as to where we can evolve? and it has to be evolve, not reinvent the whole bleeping internet; learn from the ipv6 incompatible disaster. randy