ISOC chapter and board compositon (was: Re: Proposal to revise ISOC's mission statement)

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(Trying to change the subject line because this really isn't
about the mission statement)

--On Saturday, November 25, 2017 4:52 PM +1300 Brian E Carpenter
<brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>> Second, there aren't, and as far as I recall never have been,
>> any  chapters in New England.  (A couple of time folks have
>> tried to start  one in Boston, and given up for lack of any
>> reason to.)

Miles, I think "no reason" is a mis-characterization.  At least
from my perspective, a very significant part of the problem was
that the folks who would have needed to be the core of an ISOC
chapter (or, if you prefer, without whom an ISOC chapter would
not be credible) have been too busy with other things, notably,
as the IETF has been putting it, "Making the Internet work
better" in technical and substantive ways.  Speaking for myself
only, although I suspect some who are even more active
contributors to the technical work of the IETF may share my
view, I'd rather have no ISOC chapter than one that would be of
very high risk of being captured by folks who wanted to pursue
specific social or political causes in the name of such a
chapter and whose take on those issues might be very different
than mine, and to do so in an environment in which I wouldn't
have time or energy to make counterarguments.   Normally, I
ignore such things, or on the assumption that diversity of
opinions is a good thing, encourage them, but I have been
confident that a Boston chapter would be taken (or promoted) as
speaking for me whether or not I had anything to do with it.
The success of the IETF Boston Hub (or whatever it is called
these days) may or may not reinforce that view of the
appropriateness of an ISOC Chapter and that, along with the GBC
ACM-IEEE collaboration may, further cut into available cycles.

Is that fair from an ISOC voting standpoint to those of us for
whom an active chapter structure does not seem appropriate?   I
don't think so either.  But, as Brian and others have pointed
out, no one has come up with a better suggested arrangement yet.

> Local chapters wax and wane, and are very subject to the
> personalities and motivations of their founders. Some work,
> some don't. (The Geneva chapter, of which I was the first
> President in ~1995 iirc, crashed and burned by 2009 due to
> lack of activity, but was followed by the current active Swiss
> chpater. But most of the chapters today are in the developing
> world, which is great.)

Great except for one thing, which is that, AFAICT, several,
perhaps many, of those chapters have been captured by a small
number of people who, judging from appearances, have found them
very useful as personal platforms or career-boosters.  Maybe
that is ok (or the best that can be done in the short term) for
a given chapter, but, to the extent to which is gives a
relatively small number of people with a focus on very local
concerns (even if they have global ambitions) disproportionate
representation on the Board, it is something that should at
least be monitored as we go forward.

best,
   john





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