Rich Kulawiec <rsk@xxxxxxx> writes: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 07:01:16PM -0400, chopps@xxxxxxxxxx wrote: >> Why would we want to get rid of such a rich source of inspiration and >> invention? > > Because it works exclusively for the elite, privileged few. (And no > doubt: it works quite well.) But it's the antithesis of inclusion > and diversity -- and I think those qualities are increasingly necessary. But this is not how the IETF operates. In fact we mandate that the use of mailing lists to make sure this isn't the case. The meetings are in addition to the mailing list, and more recently the virtual interim meetings (which I have found to be very useful as well), and we strive to make them as accessible as possible remotely as well. The face to face meetings add real value to the process, and b/c they are not mandatory they should not subtract value from the process. Your suggestion of not having them would subtract value from the process though. I don't see the win. It would be great if everyone who wished to could attend the meetings to take part in that added value though. The fact that some people cannot is not reason abandon the meetings, but rather a reason to try and make them as easy to attend as possible. The 1+1+1 format helps here, but so does picking affordable sites to travel to and stay in. The conference fee could be quite high for an individual contributor I think, we should perhaps explore a reduced fee for individuals when this would make the difference between attending and not. In any case I think we can and should continue to work on this front for sure. Thanks, Chris. > ---rsk
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