On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Ray Pelletier <rpelletier@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > All; > > Here is where things stand. > > 1. "Headquarters Hotel” > > Our Host, WIDE, is attempting to obtain more guest rooms in the > InterContinental Yokohama Grand. > > The InterContinental Yokohama Grand has 475 standard rooms, but > would only allow us to book 300 rooms on the peak nights of Monday > and Tuesday. They said they had to accommodate their existing > corporate and airline contracts. > It seems like IETF is reserving around 300 rooms at the main hotel. I think that in the past few IETFs, it became clear that the number of people who make quick reservations and who wishes to stay at the main conference hotel exceed this amount. Maybe the total of such a population is around 500. The fact that IETF has been reserving less number of rooms is causing a frustration among so many people, such a frustration did not happen before. Maybe the reason is there are now more people attending IETF. We are seeing similar tendency in IEEE 802 meetings as well. So my suggestion is to increase the number of rooms to negotiate at the main hotel. My 2 cents. Behcet > Wednesday and Thursdays were contracted for fewer rooms, 289 and > 250. We contracted for the rooms using the usual Bell Curve, which > typically reflects that some folks depart on Wednesday and more on > Thursday. This was a mistake on our part. if those rooms had been > available we should have contracted for the max we could get. > > 2. Overflow Hotels > > We are working with the Japanese Travel Bureau to open the JTB > reservation system for the 4 contracted Overflow Hotels. Together > these hotels have 530 rooms on a peak night, for a total of 3,550 > room nights. > > One of the 4 will also have the IETF network, courtesy of WIDE. \ > > The JTB current system only permits reservations from 31 October to 7 > November, not before or after. We are trying to get that fixed. We > think that reservations may be open Tuesday, but might be Wednesday. > > Our preference would have been to open the Overflow Hotels together > with the Headquarters Hotel. We did not to provide those needing > Visas more time to process their applications. > > 3. Alternative Hotels > > There are a number of alternative hotels near the Pacifico Yokohama > (Meeting Venue). The IETF does not have a contract with these > hotels, nor is the IETF network available. This information is > provided as a convenience to meeting attendees. The IETF makes no > representation as to availability, prices, cancellation practices, > or Internet quality. > > Map of possible alternative hotels: > https://www.google.com/maps/search/hotels+near+InterContinental+ > Yokohama+Grand,+Yokohama,+Kanagawa+Prefecture,+Japan/%4035. > 4604397,139.6350251,14z?hl=en > > You may use your favorite search engines such as: > http://www.hotels.com/ > http://www.trivago.com/ > https://www.airbnb.com/ > > You should expect to see an update Tuesday. > > Ray > > > > > >> On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:39 PM, manning <bmanning@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Perhaps a data point / leverage. >> >> The week -AFTER- the IETF, was the Yokohama International Quilt week. Same venue, same hotel. It’s been scheduled for over a year now. >> Many groups/tours are SOLD OUT, in planning to attend this event, plus side trips the week before and after. This event is larger than the IETF. >> >> …and it was recently canceled by the organizer… >> >> Perhaps (maybe) a number of the reserved rooms are tied to that event and they have not cleaned up after the effects of the cancelation. >> >> >> manning >> bmanning@xxxxxxxxxxx >> PO Box 6151 >> Playa del Rey, CA 90296 >> 310.322.8102 >> >> >> >> On 17August2015Monday, at 10:18, Adam Roach <adam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> On 8/17/15 11:48, Ole Jacobsen wrote: >>>> Speaking from personal experience, I have always found Internet access >>>> in Japanese hotels to be quite excellent even without these upgrades >>>> by our NOC team. >>> >>> I suspect that the historically destroyed Internet connections in many of the overflow hotels -- and the Maastrict hotel for that matter -- are perfectly adequate for a normal mix of guests. I find it difficult to believe that you could accurately judge what a hotel's performance would be without a load similar to what IETF attendees typically bring with them. >>> >>> To be clear, issues rise above those of simple bandwidth saturation. Most commonly, I've seen things that I suspect are DHCP pool exhaustion (with results ranging from issuing duplicate addresses (!) to simply being unable to get an address) and NAT port exhaustion (leading to the inability to make or maintain connections). We bring a unique set of stresses to an infrastructure that are way outside the normal envelope. >>> >>> /a >>> >> >