On Jul 27, 2015, at 1:07 PM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote:
It’s not addressing the problem. People who are active participants in working groups still wind up reading email while they wait for redundant presentations about documents they’ve read to finish, and then they get up and talk at the mic, along with all the people who didn’t read the draft but got enough of a vague idea out of the presentation that they feel okay about commenting on it. Chairs agree to allow ten-minute presentations about documents that aren’t working group work items and aren’t likely to be, and then all the people in the room who expensively flew to IETF to get work done sit and read email or look at LOLcats for those ten minutes, and nobody comes up to the mic. And of course some working groups take on so much work that no single individual is interested in all the presentations, and those who aren’t read email while they wait for the next presentation. The right way to address this problem is speaker training, active chairing, and the IESG not approving catch-all working groups, not punishing well-meaning, jet-lagged participants by making them listen to presentations they aren’t interested in. I don’t mean to say that what you are talking about isn’t a problem, by the way. Unfortunately I have found myself in a meeting realizing that I let myself get too distracted by an email conversation and missed something important. However, there is a reason that this happened, and it’s not that I’m in the meeting to read email. |