--On Saturday, April 04, 2015 06:12 -0700 ned+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > I completely agree with all of this. The IETF has led the way > in providing fully open access to both its standards and > standards-in-the-making, and indeed, there are still plenty of > other standards that are difficult to access. > > To me this is one of the IETF's core principles, and I don't > think the "privacy everywhere" priincple comes even close to > trumping it. +1 That was the point I was trying to make. Joe and Ned have made it much better. john