On 12 Aug 2014, at 23:10, Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On 8/12/14 1:55 PM, John Levine wrote: >> I understand that Honolulu is closest place in the US to north Asia, > > Strictly speaking, Anchorage is more than 1000 miles closer to Beijing > (as far as major US cities go) than Honolulu is and Fairbanks is closer > still, but neither has large enough accomodations for the entire IETF. > > Anyway, I'd rather be in Minneapolis, as well. It's easy to get to and > it has very productive meeting space. I understand it happens > occasionally but I do wonder how common it is for someone who's an > active participant to skip a meeting because they simply don't like the > venue. It's a big shame that Minneapolis is no longer on the venue list. It's my favourite location along with Prague, in terms of venues that maximise the meeting itself. I doubt I'll be in Hawaii. But I understand why many want a tourist destination, and why we rotate around the continents. Tim