On 5/1/2014 2:51 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > In message <5362B4C6.10904@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Miles Fidelman writes: >> Dave Crocker wrote: >>>> 5. The IESG has concluded that this document extends an IETF protocol >>>> in a way that requires IETF review and should therefore not be >>>> published without IETF review and IESG approval. >>> >>> Since DMARC does not extend any existing IETF protocol, how is that >>> reference useful here? >> >> Sure looks to me like DMARC extends both SMTP and DNS. > > And DKIM. No, No, and No. Don't confuse 'use' with 'extend'. TCP "uses" IP. It does not "extend" it. That's what architectural layering is about. Functions above a layer do not extend the lower layer; they use it. DMARC /uses/ DKIM (and SPF). It does not alter (extend) either of them. As for any claim that DMARC 'extends' SMTP or DNS, it's difficult to imagine the technical logic behind such an assertion. d/ ps. The original note was from Jim Fenton and it was him I was asking to explain his reference. He seemed to be making a point and I was asking him to provide it explicitly. -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net