On 02/09/2013 04:22, Dave Crocker wrote: > On 9/1/2013 9:08 AM, Barry Leiba wrote: >> I think Scott has put this perfectly, and it's exactly right. The >> main point is clear communication. Everything else is advice about >> how to achieve that. > > > Both are needed. Especially for a topic like this. > > That is, for each point, the principle or concept needs to be stated, > but then there need to be concrete, behavioral examples. > > If the document only cites concepts or principles or other terms of > abstraction, each of us is likely to interpret them /very/ differently. > Especially for a topic like this. > > Worse, even if we interpret them in the same way, we might not > understand what behaviors to attempt or to avoid, since that often > requires some understanding of the differences between cultures and people. That also applies to the listener. We should advise people to allow for cultural differences and language differences when listening or reading. Is this exchange from 2004 rude or not? > >> I believe we are off-topic here. > > You are off-topic from the beginning. Brian