On 6/19/13 8:12 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 6/19/13 10:00 AM, Melinda Shore wrote: >> On 6/19/13 7:56 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >>> Why do you believe that my opinions are unexamined? I have been >>> thinking and reading about social, cultural, and personal change >>> for a very long time. >> >> You made an assertion that's at least a little ahistorical, > > That depends on which historians you've been reading. Peter, it's a fact in the US and Canada that court cases preceded civil rights protections which preceded social change. This has been true for racial minorities, women, glbt folk, etc. I expect that there are historians who'd argue otherwise but allow me to suggest that if so they are very, very far out of the mainstream. It seems to me that without some sort of institutional change it's likely that for a few cycles nomcoms will try to be "sensitive" to the question of the underrepresentation of women and then it will be back to business as usual, because that's the way these things go. It's unusual for people to voluntarily surrender their privilege. Melinda