On 6/19/13 7:26 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 6/19/13 9:22 AM, Melinda Shore wrote: >> Don't know about that one. In the US, at least, legal mandates >> have typically led social change, at least when it comes to civil >> rights, etc. > That's a topic for the ietf-philosophy discussion list, methinks. :-) To the extent that unexamined assertions about how social/cultural change works are being used to explain why the organization doesn't need to be particularly proactive, I don't think so. Melinda