Re: IETF Diversity

[Dave Cridland <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:

There is a real problem with accountability and transparency in the IETF constitution which was designed by a bunch of old boys to maintain control in their own hands. Peter is a member of the IETF establishment so of course he sees no structural problem. 

 

PSA's been an AD, yes, but:

 

What I suggested is that the status quo is going to lead to applications area work moving to forums outside the IETF. The Jabber folk have already done this with the XMPP foundation.

 

He's also one of the Jabber folk, and indeed Executive Director of the XSF.

 

So given these two statements are in conflict, there must be a problem with them.

 

I think it's in the implication that the XMPP folk came and looked at the IETF and decided there was some structural problem. I don't think that's the case. You'd need to ask someone who was there when it formed, like Peter, but I suspect it really mutated gradually from an umbrella organization for open-source software projects, and by the time anyone realised it was an SDO, then the IETF was already committed to SIP/SIMPLE (to the point of giving them their own area), and was in addition happy to cite XEPs and use the technology operationally.

 

Dave.

 

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