On Apr 13, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On 04/13/2013 01:09 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >> gender bias > ... >> "western white guys". > > It may be that the latter phrase is a common term in > north America, (I dunno) but fwiw it grates on me at > least. > > If the issue we're talking about relates to gender, That's the question: Optional question: Check the block. Male/Female Ray > then I think sticking to that is better and figuring > out how to make progress ought be doable even if > dissecting past or current nomcom decisions is not. I > really hope the design team folks succeed there since > its quite possible, even if may take quite a while for > success to be fully apparent. > > If we're talking about many more kinds of diversity > then that's a different discussion, and IMO English > language fluency and funding are by far the most > overwhelming sources of skew. Skin colour is (I hope, > but also believe) far down the list so the "white" > bit above appears from my perspective like name > calling or something. > > And of course I personally don't consider myself > "western" but Irish. I've no clue if that makes a > difference in this kind of discussion:-) > > S. > >