----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Crocker" <dhc@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Sam Hartman" <hartmans-ietf@xxxxxxx> Cc: "Abdussalam Baryun" <abdussalambaryun@xxxxxxxxx>; "ietf" <ietf@xxxxxxxx>; "Lixia Zhang" <lixia@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 1:38 PM Subject: Re: History of protocol discussion or process in WG > What I think /is/ possible, however, is to establish a "history of" > wiki, to which participants can contribute their views. > > Moderate it, to limit the noise. Solicit and vet contributions from > principals, to seed the data with credible material. IMO, thats the problem. This "Judging" (and editing) is subjective and increasingly conflictive, and quite often by the same suite of people who don't have the same views as others, especially when there is legitimate technical and engineering conflicts. The last thing the IETF should seek is filtering of engineering views. It can defeat the purpose of learning from the difficult conflicts so that hopefully, the IETF can better evolve. I suggest a "standard" (and easy to complete) WG survey for anyone to complete. I'm sure there are a set of survey questions that can be deemed very useful and can be used to extract "value" information about a WG process just completed. As a side note, this may have to be offered with anonymous input as well. -- HLS