On 10/24/11 05:49 , Thomas Nadeau wrote: > > On Oct 24, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Dave CROCKER wrote: > >> >> >> On 10/24/2011 4:09 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >>>> It's really not that big a deal. Make sure that audio is >>>> working, that there's a Jabber scribe/Jabber room watcher >> ... >>> I have a concrete suggestion for WG chairs: don't ask for a >>> "Jabber scribe" (which makes it sound as if the hapless volunteer >>> needs to type everything that's said into the chatroom) but >>> instead ask for someone to relay comments from the chatroom to >>> the mic. >> >> >> Basic question: what has been the claimed purpose for doing jabber >> scribing? >> >> I thought it was a means of produce raw minutes. A side -- and >> sometimes extremely valuable -- benefit is as a relatively >> real-time alternative source of information about what is being >> spoken; this can be quite helpful for participants who are not >> native English speakers. >> >> If neither of these purposes are worth the effort, then your >> suggestion sounds dandy. If either is sufficiently valuable, then >> my question is why your groups haven't needed them. (I'm expecting >> the answer to be that your groups didn't feel the need; so my real >> question is why not?) > > The problem with Jabber is that it has become an apparently > replacement for audio/video conversation/Q&A at WG meetings for > remote participants. I find the jabber feed to be relatively > useless at meetings for this purpose as the chairs do not always > notice questions. Using something like WebEx is far more useful, and > I'd suggest making it mandatory for all WG meetings in the near > future to better facilitate remote participants. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/vmeet/current/msg00232.html > --Tom > > >> >> d/ >> >> -- >> >> Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net >> _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list >> Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >> > > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf