On 2011-04-20 21:13, SM wrote: > Hi Bob, > At 14:04 19-04-2011, Bob Hinden wrote: >> But that may not always be the case that all IAOC members have a lot >> of IETF experience. We need to have a governance model that works >> into the future. ... > You may notice that there isn't any intersection with the previous list. I think you are overlooking that some of the people in the first list have been in liaison positions in NomCom; in terms of understanding NomCom's challenges, that is sufficient. In any case, the difficulty of finding available candidates is quite apparent. ... > I agree with you that the views of the I* Chairs are important. In the case of the IETF Chair I believe the issue is that it's highly desirable, from a governance viewpoint, that the IETF Chair has *personal* responsibility in IAOC decisions, and therefore should be a voting member as a matter of principle. I don't believe that argument applies to the IAB Chair - we should IMHO have a collective goal to sharply reduce the IAB's involvement in administrative issues, so that it can do its architectural and liaison jobs properly. Delegating the IAB Chair role in the IAOC would be a step in that direction, along with appointing the permanent RFC Series Editor. We haven't discussed the third proposed delegation, that of the ISOC President's seat, very much. Assuming it was delegated to another officer of ISOC, that would seem reasonable too. But it shouldn't be delegated to just anybody, IMHO. Brian Brian _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf