On 2011-04-01 08:38, SM wrote: > Hi Brian, > At 00:07 31-03-2011, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> And that is exactly the problem with 'non-voting' status in a committee >> that mainly operates by consensus. It allows people who really ought >> to share accountability to apear to avoid it. > > According to IOAC procedures: > > "All decisions of the members must be approved by majority vote of > the members then in office." > > I don't consider that as operating by consensus. That is the tie-break rule. I can't speak for recent IAOCs, but when I was a member we esentially always achieved consensus. But my point is that I believe the IETF Chair *should* have accountability and that means being a formal voting member. Brian _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf