SM, > Eric Burger > Dave Crocker > Marshall Eubanks > Bob Hinden > Ray Pelletier (non-voting) > > None of them are new to the IETF. If it requires I* Chairs for the IAOC to be transparent, something is not right. But that may not always be the case that all IAOC members have a lot of IETF experience. We need to have a governance model that works into the future. > >> I think the I* chairs, in my view bring a broad view of the community and operational needs based on what's involved in doing their jobs than another person would not have. > > If I understand your arguments, it is also about avoiding a disconnect between the administrative side of the IETF and the IAB/IESG. Yes > > draft-kolkman-iasa-ex-officio-membership-00 argues for a change to reduce the workload and make the I* Chair positions more attractive. Would it help if the IAOC Chair has a liaison position on the IAB and IESG? The IAB and IESG Chairs can use their discretion to determine which IAOC meetings they should attend. The IAOC Chair gets a broader view. > > The above pushes the workload around instead of addressing the problem. If this trend continues, the best fit people will turn down I* positions. It would certainly give the IAOC chair a broader view, but still not the views of the I* chair. Also, if the I* chairs (3 of 9 voting members) regularly didn't attend, it would be much harder to get a quorum for a meeting and pass motions. Bob _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf