Our main reason for running the one-day pass experiment in Japan was a desire by our host, WIDE, to bring in "related organizations" to the IETF process. I don't think anyone expected these attendees to be much more than "observers", but there was still the hope that they would report back to their respective organizations and get involved in the IETF going forward. In Japan, getting permission to be out of the office for a whole week is a lot more difficult than for just one day, especially for something that might be only somewhat "related" (that's probably true in many other places too). I still believe that it would be good to allow one (or perhaps two) day participation for a fee which makes it affordable and possible for more people to attend, but I recognize that the system may need tuning and that it is currently possible to "abuse," although historically we have not been paying too much attention to folks who just show up and don't pay at all either. As Henk mentioned, when RIPE introduced one-day passes the net result was more participation and an overall increase in meeting revenue, but I recognize that the IETF is not (yet ? ;-) RIPE. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@xxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf