Re: China venue survey

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On 9/19/09 10:23 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, Yaron Sheffer wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ole,
>>
>> The IETF is highly ideological. Probably more so than most other SDOs.
>>
>> We care deeply about the end to end principle, about net neutrality, 
>> and (at least in the community I'm a member of) about security. Many 
>> of our members care a lot about IPR and its effect on open source.
>>
>> So why when it comes to free speech, which is clearly related to our 
>> open way of making standards, we suddenly shy away from taking a 
>> moral stance and instead resort to budgetary calculations?
>>
>> And regarding the survey: most people, myself included, would bend a 
>> principle or two to go somewhere as interesting and exciting as 
>> China. But you would get a radically different answer if you asked: 
>> should the IETF hold a meeting in a country that mandates a non-free 
>> speech commitment, or should we prefer an alternative where no such 
>> commitments are required.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> 	Yaron
>>
> 
> You might get a different answer, but it's ultimately up to the 
> individuals who answer the survey. How would you expect our large and 
> growing contingent from China to answer that question? Should we ask 
> about the policies of the United States, France or Germany on a long 
> range of topics (visa, wars, death penalty...)? Where do we draw the 
> line?

I think we draw the line at restrictions on our freedom of speech.

Peter

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Peter Saint-Andre
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