Re: Last Call: draft-irtf-asrg-dnsbl (DNS Blacklists and Whitelists)

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Eric Rescorla wrote:
Speaking as someone who just got burned by exactly such a list,
I think I need to agree with John: I don't object to the IETF
publishing an informational document on this, but a PS implies
that IETF endorses the practice, which I don't think we should do.


Eric,

Roughly 95% of all mail is spam.  That makes email a pretty onerous "practice".

So we ought to remove standards status for all email specifications.

Or we could consider keeping mechanism and policy separate, standardizing technologies (mechanisms) and refraining from condemning them because some operators have misguided policies and use the mechanisms badly.

Really, guys, everything we standardize has examples of misuse. So that hardly makes your current line of argument substantive.

Are you actually saying that there is something inherently inappropriate in having published reputation lists and that a technical standards body like the IETF is tasked with rejecting standardization of otherwise-acceptable technical specifications because we don't like how some people will use them?

Are you seriously lobbying for the IETF to be an idealistic island that ignores rough consensus and very well-established practice among the broader Internet community?

d/
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  Dave Crocker
  Brandenburg InternetWorking
  bbiw.net
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