--On Thursday, 26 June, 2008 09:41 +1200 Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >... > And of course, individual ADs > have to think carefully whether a given issue is or is not > worthy of a DISCUSS, and sometimes they get it wrong. But > that will always be true, however we tune the process and > procedures. Brian, While I agree with this, I also believe that there have to be effective safeguards against bad judgments prevailing for too long. And I believe that those have largely slipped away from us... unless we believe that making changes, unvalidated by WG or mailing list consensus, simply to get a DISCUSS removed is the right way to get to "high quality, relevant technical and engineering documents...". john _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf