I can confirm that the confirmation letter from the hotel does not reflect the terms stated by Ray, but this is presumably just a limitation of their automated system. For example, the letter says: "These rates are not available for groups or conferences," which is exactly the opposite of what's going on here. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@xxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf