Ned Freed wrote: >> That's true. But at some point of time, XML source *was* fed into >> xml2rfc, right? > > Sure, but what about things like locally defined entity references? xml2rfc > handles these but they create an external reference that has to be there > alongside the main source.
That's why I have been arguing all the time that documents like these (non-standalone) should not be allowed to be submitted.
WFM.
>> I would argue that *that* XML source should be >> submitted; submitting something that needs additional non-standard >> preprocessing seems a bit pointless to me. > > *That* XML source is still not necessarily self-contained. Indeed, one > model I've seen people use is to preprocess included materials but not > the main XML source. > >> > Only when the document is finished does it make sense to generate a >> > self-contained XML source for it. > >> I don't agree with that. > > Then you need to provide a viable alternative, because what you're > suggesting > isn't compatible with how some people use the tools.
Whatever people feed into xml2rfc can be made stand-alone by running it once through an XML parser and reserializing; or be applying an identity XSLT transformation.
Sure, but my point is people probably don't want to do this all the time.
>> But anyway, if you think it doesn't make sense to generate >> self-contained XML for each I-D, why submit the non-self-contained XML >> source at all? > > Obviously you don't submit XML source up until that point.
I thought people did and that was a problem. Did I misunderstand something?
Yes, you're taking this entire line of commentary completely out of context. This was all in response to Eliot's suggestion that XML versions of the document should be required at the time of WGLC. John K responded to that advising caution for various reasons and I chimed in with the additional reason that this will force people to generate standalone intermediary versions for submission. Ned _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf