Daniel Senie wrote: > At 01:29 PM 10/15/2007, John Leslie wrote: > >> Hallam-Baker, Phillip <pbaker@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > >> > Whether your objective is to reduce carbon emissions because of >> > global warming concerns or reduce dependence on fossil fuels that are >> > increasingly in short supply, there is a real incentive to reduce >> > energy use. >> > >> > If teleconferencing actually worked the need to hold face to face >> > meetings would be reduced. >> >> I am constantly surprised how little interest there is within IETF >> for teleconferecing that works well. > > Indeed. I raised this point over the years. Even offering to pay a > "remote attendance fee" if there were in fact the ability to see and > hear sessions, and participate. The IETF for many years crowed about the > Mbone connectivity as being innovative, but got stuck there, and didn't > progress when comercial solutions bypassed that flawed technology. I don't recall crowing about multicast. I also don't recall you volunteering to show up and help enable remote participation... The volunteers built a model that was sustainable with a modest amount of capital and time. both jabber and and streaming audio. I respectfully suggest that if you put more in, you might get more out. joelja _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf