Jari Arkko wrote: > And as Brian noted, if this someone misuses their power for > personal reasons or some other reason, we have an appeals > process. I'm not sure there's fundamentally any other way > to handle this. Nor me. Forcing them to either vote "Yes" for a document they don't really like, or refuse an IESG evaluation, that could be a dilemma for the AD. And finding an AD where that situation is unlikely could be an difficult for authors - if they know this potential dilemma. [Brian also mentioned:] | in fact a common reply from an AD might be to recommend | independent submission if the work is interesting but really | outside IETF scope. Maybe the draft should say so at the end of the 4th paragraph in chapter 3, where it talks about BoFs and WGs. Or at the end of chapter 5. I don't like this draft, "send publication request to secretariat" is more attractive than spamming ADs. Frank _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf