Hi Frank, > That was the complaint, the draft is from an IESG POV, and it > explains how to deal with confused authors claiming that a > single bit is enough to count to three or similar cases. > > I would be happy to sponsor a ternary bit draft, but only on April 1 :-) > But it doesn't address the POV of authors who want to get an > evaluation of their I-D. The first step is clear, figure out > the area, if that's unclear ask the General AD. > > Right. > After that if the area has a "catchall crackpot WG" try to > get a review there, at some point in time ask the Chair(s) > to adopt the I-D. Is that still correct ? > > If the area has no catchall crackpot WG try to get reviews > on a related IETF or "other" list, at some point in time ask > one of the ADs. > Right. But the draft says relatively little about this, because there are different situations. Some areas have a general purpose area working group with chairs and an ability to produce documents just like any other WG. Other areas (like INT) have only a discussion forum that is not intended for detailed protocol development. In the latter case the ADs are likely to get more individual submission proposals. And the authors may not even be the active parties. ADs may and sometimes do solicit specifications for some purpose, such as fixing a bug or updating an aging crypto algorithm. > If that AD agrees to support it there will be a Last Call > or not - depending on the intended status, or the decision > of that AD to "last call" it anyway. > > Right. > But what if the AD doesn't like it ? Not all drafts try to > introduce ternary bits. Apparently ADs are forced to vote > [Yes] (at least initially) if they "sponsor" a document. > > What if they don't like it, but the authors still insist on > an evaluation ? Can they appeal then ? What if the AD > does not like it personally, but admits that it's not as > bad as the famous ternary bits ? > As with regular WG submissions, the document has to pass the responsible AD's review. Otherwise it goes back to the WG or the authors. ADs can always decline to sponsor a given document, based on usefulness to the community, expertise, etc. There is no guarantee that all suggestions will be taken on. Appeals procedures apply just like they do for other contributions. Jari _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf