Hi Frank, on 2007-01-12 15:37 Frank Ellermann said the following: > Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > >>> Hi, do you mean s/Chair/AD/ here ? > >> No. The way I see it, Shepherd 'write' rights would be a subset of the >> Chair rights, which will be a subset of the AD rights. > > Why should WG Chairs - if they're not proto-shepherds - have write access > on the I-D tracker at all ? A proto-shepherd needs similar access rights > as a "traditional" shepherd - minus posting the approval on the announce > list. You're looking at this from the perspective of the document shepherding only. The chair access to the tracker is about more than this. The best is probably to point to the draft regarding this proposed extension of the tracker: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-proto-wgchair-tracker-ext (There's a snapshot of the current working copy available too, which has some changes based on recent discussion on the proto and wgchairs lists: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/proto/draft-ietf-proto-wgchair-tracker-ext/draft-ietf-proto-wgchair-tracker-ext-02.b.txt ) > Probably I'm just confused, that's how I understood the concept so > far: > > Normally the responsible AD (one of the area ADs) is the shepherd. One of > the WG Chairs can be nominated as proto shepherd (the Chairs toss a coin > or similar). If the responsible AD doesn't want to delegate this task he > or she is the shepherd, and there's no problem with write access right. > > Otherwise the nominated Chair is the proto shepherd and needs write access > for certain actions (enter last call, post questionnaire, initiate ballot, > etc.) But not participate in the ballot, and not post the approval. Right. Those are restricted actions. > With that I'd get "Chair rights" as subset of "proto shepherd rights", not > the other way around. Actually I get no "Chair rights" at all appart from > read access like everybody else. Right, except for the broader perspective when you regard chair tasks outside of shepherding. Henrik _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf