I appreciate Eliot announcing his I-D here, and I am hopeful it can lead to a better understanding of what we're facing here. OTOH, I find myself in agreement with John Klensin about the difficulty of the task; and I find myself very much in agreement with Brian Carpenter that the commitment by a broad selection of IETF folks to tackle the issue is lacking. I most strongly urge Eliot to move the discussion of this draft to another mailing-list. IN the absence of Eliot specifying otherwise, I suggest the NEWTRK list: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/newtrk.html -- John Leslie <john@xxxxxxx> _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf